NUR
2023-06-18 11:38:55 UTC
Gomer continues to project without offering a single shred of evidence, basing his entire argument upon his own speculation and his loyalty to two IR operatives! I stand by every last word I said to Interrogator919 in 2019 so I won't even address that point. The unbiased observer should simply look through the history of this fink here on reddit to see for themselves which team this individual actually bats for and who Gomer is essentially acting as a sockpuppet to.
Now, Gomer asserts:
The idea that Baha'u'llah so blatantly lied about the Bayan to justify abrogating it doesn't hold up for one simple reason: In Baha'u'llah's time, nearly all the Baha'is were former Bayanis and thus they would have had access to the Bayan to see if there were such laws for Baha'u'llah to abrogate. There would have been no need for Baha'u'llah to abrogate anything from the Bayan if those laws were anything reasonable like that claimed above.
Yet this is complete speculation without any evidence being offered as well as a complete argumentative red herring. The contention made here is 1) that the Bayan commands book burning, 2) that the Bayan commands building 9-sided houses, 3) that the Bayan disallows the asking of questions and 4) that the Bayan commands that priceless gifts be given to the Bab. However, no such laws exist. So as the law of debate holds, those who assert must prove. Neither Gomer, Interrogator919 and their alter ego SuccessfulCorner2512 or MirzaIRI_Jan appear to read classical Arabic (or French, for that matter) and so rely on either garbled English translations by Peter Terry (from Nicolas' original French) or material put out by IRI outfits or material by MacEoin and others, but deliberately taken out of context. However, I have offered links to the text of the Arabic Bayan itself:
The autograph in the hand of the Bab Himself: https://www.academia.edu/36798591/Codex_Arabic_Bay%C4%81n_pdf
The Azali lithograph edition from the autograph (whose editor's preamble was translated by me from Persian to English for Bayanic.com): https://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/ABayan/ABayan-FWD.html
the INBA 43 text (a Baha'i publication): https://www.h-net.org/~bahai/diglib/INBA/INBA043.pdf
Muslim anti-Babi polemicist `Abd al-Razzaq al-Hasani typescript edition: https://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/bab/A-F/b/bayana/bayana.htm
Those who assert must prove! So Gomer and his IRI handlers must prove on the prima facie evidence of the text of the Arabic Bayan itself that 1) the Bayan commands book burning, 2) that the Bayan commands building 9-sided houses, 3) that the Bayan disallows the asking of questions and 4) that the Bayan commands that priceless gifts be given to the Bab. I have already proven 1) to be a lie since the 13the gate of the 9th Unity clearly states:
أنتم أبدا كتابا لا تخرقون
"You are not to destroy any book whatsoever/under any circumstance!"
https://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/ABayan/ABayan-FWD.html
Or any piece of writing, since in Arabic kitab/book in the accusative and indefinite case can refer to a book or any other piece of written material.
Gomer and his IR handlers have skirted around this question for 4 straight years without ever offering a single piece of credible evidence or rebuttal. Instead, like the professional propagandists and gaslighting censors that they are, they have dug in their heels every time and continued to repeat themselves with the same inane talking points as before over and over again.
Finally, I will go on record and say that the clear evidence proves Interrogator919 to be a dyed in the wool and classic Shi'ite Muslim fundamentalist anti-Babi BIGOT and his sock-puppet Gomer a textbook SOCIOPATH for actually following this person. I have proven my case and the facts speak for themselves. Gomer has once again proven himself as a know-nothing and arrogant Pyle-of-Merde!
Now, Gomer asserts:
The idea that Baha'u'llah so blatantly lied about the Bayan to justify abrogating it doesn't hold up for one simple reason: In Baha'u'llah's time, nearly all the Baha'is were former Bayanis and thus they would have had access to the Bayan to see if there were such laws for Baha'u'llah to abrogate. There would have been no need for Baha'u'llah to abrogate anything from the Bayan if those laws were anything reasonable like that claimed above.
Yet this is complete speculation without any evidence being offered as well as a complete argumentative red herring. The contention made here is 1) that the Bayan commands book burning, 2) that the Bayan commands building 9-sided houses, 3) that the Bayan disallows the asking of questions and 4) that the Bayan commands that priceless gifts be given to the Bab. However, no such laws exist. So as the law of debate holds, those who assert must prove. Neither Gomer, Interrogator919 and their alter ego SuccessfulCorner2512 or MirzaIRI_Jan appear to read classical Arabic (or French, for that matter) and so rely on either garbled English translations by Peter Terry (from Nicolas' original French) or material put out by IRI outfits or material by MacEoin and others, but deliberately taken out of context. However, I have offered links to the text of the Arabic Bayan itself:
The autograph in the hand of the Bab Himself: https://www.academia.edu/36798591/Codex_Arabic_Bay%C4%81n_pdf
The Azali lithograph edition from the autograph (whose editor's preamble was translated by me from Persian to English for Bayanic.com): https://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/ABayan/ABayan-FWD.html
the INBA 43 text (a Baha'i publication): https://www.h-net.org/~bahai/diglib/INBA/INBA043.pdf
Muslim anti-Babi polemicist `Abd al-Razzaq al-Hasani typescript edition: https://www.h-net.org/~bahai/areprint/bab/A-F/b/bayana/bayana.htm
Those who assert must prove! So Gomer and his IRI handlers must prove on the prima facie evidence of the text of the Arabic Bayan itself that 1) the Bayan commands book burning, 2) that the Bayan commands building 9-sided houses, 3) that the Bayan disallows the asking of questions and 4) that the Bayan commands that priceless gifts be given to the Bab. I have already proven 1) to be a lie since the 13the gate of the 9th Unity clearly states:
أنتم أبدا كتابا لا تخرقون
"You are not to destroy any book whatsoever/under any circumstance!"
https://bayanic.com/lib/fwd/ABayan/ABayan-FWD.html
Or any piece of writing, since in Arabic kitab/book in the accusative and indefinite case can refer to a book or any other piece of written material.
Gomer and his IR handlers have skirted around this question for 4 straight years without ever offering a single piece of credible evidence or rebuttal. Instead, like the professional propagandists and gaslighting censors that they are, they have dug in their heels every time and continued to repeat themselves with the same inane talking points as before over and over again.
Finally, I will go on record and say that the clear evidence proves Interrogator919 to be a dyed in the wool and classic Shi'ite Muslim fundamentalist anti-Babi BIGOT and his sock-puppet Gomer a textbook SOCIOPATH for actually following this person. I have proven my case and the facts speak for themselves. Gomer has once again proven himself as a know-nothing and arrogant Pyle-of-Merde!